that is true but they call them thermal breakers, most cars run them, not this car. we can talk classes of circuit over load protection all day to no end... why? in this old car it's a fast acting fuse , ATC type,. or could be (its not) a auto resetting thermal breaker, that works best on windows. as seen in BETTER cars.
after all, they use thermal breakers in the hope that the short clears and you are not trapped in the car; I have a dead friend that died from that. a very beautiful lady. Got stuck in a pond 4foot deep and the windows failed and she drowned. (2 died) I vote for and upgrade,
note how i actually read her cars schematic first, then posted a correct answer based on facts, not generalizations.(that most times are wrong)that is true but they call them thermal breakers, most cars run them, not this car. we can talk classes of circuit over load protection all day to no end... why? in this old car it's a fast acting fuse , ATC type,. or could be (its not) a auto resetting thermal breaker, that works best on windows. as seen in BETTER cars. after all, they use thermal breakers in the hope that the short clears and you are not trapped in the car; I have a dead friend that died from that. a very beautiful lady. Got stuck in a pond 4foot deep and the windows failed and she drowned. (2 died) I vote for and upgrade, note how i actually read her cars schematic first, then posted a correct answer based on facts, not generalizations.(that most times are wrong)
what twisted logic you use to justify your statement A fuse is used in a circuit to protect the wiring and prevent a fire A short will not correct itself as it is just that, a short circuit of the power to ground either by failed unit or bared wires Thermal breakers are used in overload situations such as electric motors where the current draw is exceed and needs a physical reset or there is a time delay where the bimetallic strip cools down and again makes the circuit ( auto reset type) All of the latest cars regardless of the price still have fuses in the circuits and they blow on a regular basis and need replacing It is one surefire method of having a fault fixed I feel for your friend but the fact is with the motors and circuits immersed in water, the windows would not have worked anyway either with or without circuit breakers as the water is a dead short in electrics. so in electrics whether in the automotive, or home , or entertainment, or mechanical applications a fuse is a fuse and is used to protect the circuit there are resistance fuses which blow immediately their value is exceeded, used in homes, cars ---slow blow fuses used in electronics such as tv sets amplifiers etc--- thermal fuses used on electric motors to protect the equipment when they draw excessive current, auto resetting thermal fuses which use a bimetallic strip that completes the circuit when they cool down but blows immediately if the condition that caused them to operate has not being rectified and lastly earth leakage fuses (RCD ) that blow in nanoseconds to prevent electrocution and are installed in homes , power boxes , power boards now are you going to question the fuses in use simply because you can read a schematics and do you fully understand what you are reading. I do not generalize as you assume that I do --simply because engineers use the cheapest possible in cars and it costs money to use specialized equipment and most people cannot afford that cost. Besides that they know that to exit a car you open the door -not the windowwhat twisted logic you use to justify your statement A fuse is used in a circuit to protect the wiring and prevent a fire A short will not correct itself as it is just that, a short circuit of the power to ground either by failed unit or bared wires Thermal breakers are used in overload situations such as electric motors where the current draw is exceed and needs a physical reset or there is a time delay where the bimetallic strip cools down and again makes the circuit ( auto reset type) All of the latest cars regardless of the price still have fuses in the circuits and they blow on a regular basis and need replacing It is one surefire method of having a fault fixed I feel for your friend but the fact is with the motors and circuits immersed in water, the windows would not have worked anyway either with or without circuit breakers as the water is a dead short in electrics. so in electrics whether in the automotive, or home , or entertainment, or mechanical applications a fuse is a fuse and is used to protect the circuit there are resistance fuses which blow immediately their value is exceeded, used in homes, cars ---slow blow fuses used in electronics such as tv sets amplifiers etc--- thermal fuses used on electric motors to protect the equipment when they draw excessive current, auto resetting thermal fuses which use a bimetallic strip that completes the circuit when they cool down but blows immediately if the condition that caused them to operate has not being rectified and lastly earth leakage fuses (RCD ) that blow in nanoseconds to prevent electrocution and are installed in homes , power boxes , power boards now are you going to question the fuses in use simply because you can read a schematics and do you fully understand what you are reading. I do not generalize as you assume that I do --simply because engineers use the cheapest possible in cars and it costs money to use specialized equipment and most people cannot afford that cost. Besides that they know that to exit a car you open the door -not the window
2000 rodeo, in USA> here ill look it up. again a wild useless Easter egg hunt with no symptoms posted. why do that.? is it fun? are all window motors dead, that be first.first. and the rears dead, if fitted? is the sun roof dead too? first off there IS NO BREAKER , it runs 2 fuses. CB15 and 21, CB means cab box. if you had checked all fuses first., you have found 15/21 blown if not, the relay is bad, if not the controls are bad. assuming all windows DEAD, at all controls. if the sun roof works the relay is good.
fuses, ATC fuses that look bad are in fact bad. fuses that look good can be bad, so we. hair line cracks. checked the in hand with a ohm meter DMM set to Rx1.(low scale) 0 ohms is good ,infinity is bad. or we can check fuses with any volt meter made, live, installed . 12vdc on both sides is good, key on, finger pressing UP or down in this case. and live testing wins ever time... btw. and you can never RESET any ATC fuse made, the metal inside melts and is now DOA.fuses, ATC fuses that look bad are in fact bad. fuses that look good can be bad, so we. hair line cracks. checked the in hand with a ohm meter DMM set to Rx1.(low scale) 0 ohms is good ,infinity is bad. or we can check fuses with any volt meter made, live, installed . 12vdc on both sides is good, key on, finger pressing UP or down in this case. and live testing wins ever time... btw. and you can never RESET any ATC fuse made, the metal inside melts and is now DOA.
but you are correct, good cars run real breakers, and the best are the auto reset type. for reasons stated below (safety)but you are correct, good cars run real breakers, and the best are the auto reset type. for reasons stated below (safety)
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A fuse is a circuit breaker
if the fuse for the power windows is ok the the problem is else where -- could be a relay that is faulty
that is true but they call them thermal breakers, most cars run them, not this car.
we can talk classes of circuit over load protection all day to no end... why?
in this old car it's a fast acting fuse , ATC type,. or could be (its not) a auto resetting thermal breaker, that works best on windows. as seen in BETTER cars.
after all, they use thermal breakers in the hope that the short clears and you are not trapped in the car; I have a dead friend that died from that. a very beautiful lady.
Got stuck in a pond 4foot deep and the windows failed and she drowned. (2 died)
I vote for and upgrade,
note how i actually read her cars schematic first, then posted a correct answer based on facts, not generalizations.(that most times are wrong)
what twisted logic you use to justify your statement
A fuse is used in a circuit to protect the wiring and prevent a fire
A short will not correct itself as it is just that, a short circuit of the power to ground either by failed unit or bared wires
Thermal breakers are used in overload situations such as electric motors where the current draw is exceed and needs a physical reset or there is a time delay where the bimetallic strip cools down and again makes the circuit ( auto reset type)
All of the latest cars regardless of the price still have fuses in the circuits and they blow on a regular basis and need replacing
It is one surefire method of having a fault fixed
I feel for your friend but the fact is with the motors and circuits immersed in water, the windows would not have worked anyway either with or without circuit breakers as the water is a dead short in electrics. so in electrics whether in the automotive, or home , or entertainment, or mechanical applications a fuse is a fuse and is used to protect the circuit
there are resistance fuses which blow immediately their value is exceeded, used in homes, cars ---slow blow fuses used in electronics such as tv sets amplifiers etc--- thermal fuses used on electric motors to protect the equipment when they draw excessive current, auto resetting thermal fuses which use a bimetallic strip that completes the circuit when they cool down but blows immediately if the condition that caused them to operate has not being rectified and lastly earth leakage fuses (RCD ) that blow in nanoseconds to prevent electrocution and are installed in homes , power boxes , power boards
now are you going to question the fuses in use simply because you can read a schematics and do you fully understand what you are reading.
I do not generalize as you assume that I do --simply because engineers use the cheapest possible in cars and it costs money to use specialized equipment and most people cannot afford that cost. Besides that they know that to exit a car you open the door -not the window
2000 rodeo, in USA>
here ill look it up.
again a wild useless Easter egg hunt with no symptoms posted.
why do that.? is it fun?
are all window motors dead, that be first.first.
and the rears dead, if fitted?
is the sun roof dead too?
first off there IS NO BREAKER , it runs 2 fuses.
CB15 and 21, CB means cab box.
if you had checked all fuses first., you have found 15/21 blown
if not, the relay is bad, if not the controls are bad.
assuming all windows DEAD, at all controls.
if the sun roof works the relay is good.
end hunt.
fuses, ATC fuses that look bad are in fact bad.
fuses that look good can be bad, so we.
hair line cracks.
checked the in hand with a ohm meter DMM set to Rx1.(low scale)
0 ohms is good ,infinity is bad.
or we can check fuses with any volt meter made, live, installed .
12vdc on both sides is good, key on, finger pressing UP or down in this case.
and live testing wins ever time... btw.
and you can never RESET any ATC fuse made,
the metal inside melts and is now DOA.
but you are correct, good cars run real breakers, and the best are the auto reset type. for reasons stated below (safety)