filament. We sent for and replaced that, but it still didn't work. As far as I can tell, someone would have to dismantle the stove and to get in side and who knows if the will even find the problem. I wouldn't mind if I kew what the problem was, but I can't afford to be spending thousands on labor without results.I can't even bring my self to tell my husband about the stove top burner. He is already disgusted because of the money that we spent on the bloody thing and it isn't even functional. Any ideas or thoughts would be gratefully appreciated
Hi, well you have got yourself a nasty little problem. however it may be resolvable. See it sounds as though you may have a "Jet" or "pressure" problem.
A Gas appliance is a fairly simple device, the gas enters, and is usually dropped in pressure, and then via a Valve, is fed to an outlet port, that has a "Jet" in it, (a small insert with a tiny hole through it, bigger hole more gas) So, now the "Igniter" is a Pizeo-electric element, and this produces a spark, to light the gas.
Now we also have "Protection" circuitry that monitors certain parameters, and will shut down the stove if any of those parameters are activated.
Also we have a "Main Controller" that administrates the stoves activities, and work in conjunction with our "protection" circuits.
So as you can see there is little that can go wrong... if we suspect Gas, then it maybe blocked jets, blocked gas pipe, or low pressure. If we suspect igniter, then obviously, that's where the problem is, either it's stopped working, the electrical connection isn't correct/broken.
Now the fact you can "Hear" the "Sparking" indicates that the igniter must be working, no doubt, you can also "See" the blue spark as well. If so this then eliminates the igniter, as they are a Go-No-Go device, and yours it seems is OK.
That leaves us with Gas, perhaps you have a bad regulator? perhaps you have a Blocked jet? perhaps you have a pipe blockage? Perhaps you have bad pressure?
Most often it is simply a clogged jet nozzle, they can be cleaned out with thin wire, Fuse wire is ideal. As can most pipes, it is seldom those though, The regulators and any valves can often be suspect, the diaphragm causes the problems here, and valves can stick etc..
But in saying all that it could also be a main controller "Fault" as this too can give similar symptoms, one really has to work through the troubleshooting steps, and isolate the exact cause, by process of elimination.
Below is a user manual for you. I searched for a service manual, however was unable to find one, this is a "Must Have" if one wants to service anything. Perhaps if you contact an agent or similar you maybe able to procure a manual? If you wish to DIY then you really do need one.
www.heartlandapp.com/GetFile.ashx?idFile=20
With Gas though, you really must be careful, as you must understand. This is why, in reality, professionally, I must advise you to use a professional serviceman, just to be safe.
Also one must at some point come to the idea of replacement, what with spending $300 already, and still it hasn't been resolved, and now there is a prospect of more monies having to be outlaid, perhaps even the same amount again, to my mind, I would be thinking about putting any further monies towards a NEW unit, with a full warranty?
Further, to this end, a recent Swedish study, has revealed that an repaired item, any repaired item, will "Fault" again within the next 12 - 18 months regardless. This is due, to the fact that "Other" components are "Stressed" by the initial "Fault", and this, or a repeat of the old fault, causes a failure later on. Food for thought?
Www.heartlandapp.com/GetFile.ashx?idFile=20 That's a link to the service manual
Do you smell gas? I've seen spider egg sacks on gas grills cause this. Cloggs the ports & not enough gas comes out. But this unit has alot more to it than a grill. The ignitor must be spaced properly to achieve the proper spark. You need about an eighth in. gap to get the right arc. The regulator may not be letting the proper pressure out. too much & no light, too little same deal. Some disassembly maybe needed to clean the ports & tubes out if they are blocked. I googled this model & many have similar issues. Other concerns could be, is it getting enough air under the unit? Amazing they bill you $300 & not fix it or provide a decent solution!
It sure can be. I had a feeling you got this used, even if only slightly. I'd go over that manual I sent a link to. It's completely free & I viewed it online briefly because it's about 50 pages,lol. Check to make sure it's vented good. You need oxygen as well as gas. Above you stated how you needed to hold the control knob to keep it lit. That says alot there. Those knobs are the flow control valves & contain o-rings. The manual has alot of really good, detailed info on the whole unit, exploded views, diagrams, & a parts list, more. This unit needs a certain amount of gas pressure to operate also, so the main regulator maybe a problem. Just tossing ideas around. Oh & if you can't read the pdf, the adobe site has the reader for free. You can save the file to your pc so you can really go over it or print it out even. It's the same manual the techs get.It sure can be. I had a feeling you got this used, even if only slightly. I'd go over that manual I sent a link to. It's completely free & I viewed it online briefly because it's about 50 pages,lol. Check to make sure it's vented good. You need oxygen as well as gas. Above you stated how you needed to hold the control knob to keep it lit. That says alot there. Those knobs are the flow control valves & contain o-rings. The manual has alot of really good, detailed info on the whole unit, exploded views, diagrams, & a parts list, more. This unit needs a certain amount of gas pressure to operate also, so the main regulator maybe a problem. Just tossing ideas around. Oh & if you can't read the pdf, the adobe site has the reader for free. You can save the file to your pc so you can really go over it or print it out even. It's the same manual the techs get.
I have a heartland gas stove and can not get parts or service for it. I would never recommend this stove to anyoneI have a heartland gas stove and can not get parts or service for it. I would never recommend this stove to anyone
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Hi, well you have got yourself a nasty little problem. however it may be resolvable. See it sounds as though you may have a "Jet" or "pressure" problem.
A Gas appliance is a fairly simple device, the gas enters, and is usually dropped in pressure, and then via a Valve, is fed to an outlet port, that has a "Jet" in it, (a small insert with a tiny hole through it, bigger hole more gas) So, now the "Igniter" is a Pizeo-electric element, and this produces a spark, to light the gas.
Now we also have "Protection" circuitry that monitors certain parameters, and will shut down the stove if any of those parameters are activated.
Also we have a "Main Controller" that administrates the stoves activities, and work in conjunction with our "protection" circuits.
So as you can see there is little that can go wrong... if we suspect Gas, then it maybe blocked jets, blocked gas pipe, or low pressure. If we suspect igniter, then obviously, that's where the problem is, either it's stopped working, the electrical connection isn't correct/broken.
Now the fact you can "Hear" the "Sparking" indicates that the igniter must be working, no doubt, you can also "See" the blue spark as well. If so this then eliminates the igniter, as they are a Go-No-Go device, and yours it seems is OK.
That leaves us with Gas, perhaps you have a bad regulator? perhaps you have a Blocked jet? perhaps you have a pipe blockage? Perhaps you have bad pressure?
Most often it is simply a clogged jet nozzle, they can be cleaned out with thin wire, Fuse wire is ideal. As can most pipes, it is seldom those though, The regulators and any valves can often be suspect, the diaphragm causes the problems here, and valves can stick etc..
But in saying all that it could also be a main controller "Fault" as this too can give similar symptoms, one really has to work through the troubleshooting steps, and isolate the exact cause, by process of elimination.
Below is a user manual for you. I searched for a service manual, however was unable to find one, this is a "Must Have" if one wants to service anything. Perhaps if you contact an agent or similar you maybe able to procure a manual? If you wish to DIY then you really do need one.
www.heartlandapp.com/GetFile.ashx?idFile=20
With Gas though, you really must be careful, as you must understand. This is why, in reality, professionally, I must advise you to use a professional serviceman, just to be safe.
Also one must at some point come to the idea of replacement, what with spending $300 already, and still it hasn't been resolved, and now there is a prospect of more monies having to be outlaid, perhaps even the same amount again, to my mind, I would be thinking about putting any further monies towards a NEW unit, with a full warranty?
Further, to this end, a recent Swedish study, has revealed that an repaired item, any repaired item, will "Fault" again within the next 12 - 18 months regardless. This is due, to the fact that "Other" components are "Stressed" by the initial "Fault", and this, or a repeat of the old fault, causes a failure later on. Food for thought?
Www.heartlandapp.com/GetFile.ashx?idFile=20 That's a link to the service manual
Do you smell gas? I've seen spider egg sacks on gas grills cause this. Cloggs the ports & not enough gas comes out. But this unit has alot more to it than a grill. The ignitor must be spaced properly to achieve the proper spark. You need about an eighth in. gap to get the right arc. The regulator may not be letting the proper pressure out. too much & no light, too little same deal. Some disassembly maybe needed to clean the ports & tubes out if they are blocked. I googled this model & many have similar issues. Other concerns could be, is it getting enough air under the unit? Amazing they bill you $300 & not fix it or provide a decent solution!
It sure can be. I had a feeling you got this used, even if only slightly. I'd go over that manual I sent a link to. It's completely free & I viewed it online briefly because it's about 50 pages,lol. Check to make sure it's vented good. You need oxygen as well as gas. Above you stated how you needed to hold the control knob to keep it lit. That says alot there. Those knobs are the flow control valves & contain o-rings. The manual has alot of really good, detailed info on the whole unit, exploded views, diagrams, & a parts list, more. This unit needs a certain amount of gas pressure to operate also, so the main regulator maybe a problem. Just tossing ideas around. Oh & if you can't read the pdf, the adobe site has the reader for free. You can save the file to your pc so you can really go over it or print it out even. It's the same manual the techs get.
I have a heartland gas stove and can not get parts or service for it. I would never recommend this stove to anyone